Caveman conquers Jonendake and surveys the Panorama Ginza

view of kita alps

 

. . . about Jonendake

This is one of the 100 Famous Mountains listed by Yuyu Kukada.  Jonendake is on the Panorama Ginza Trail that has spectacular views of the other mountains of the Kita Alps.  Nearby is Mt. Chogatake, which is also on the Panorama Ginza.  Both mountains are served by lodges during the green seasons.  These mountains are fairly accessible year-round unlike the rest of the Kita Alps which are only accessible during non-snowy seasons without a *lot* of walking.

Area:

Jonendake, Alps, Azumino City, Nagano

Location:

Map:  ***The Caveman is giving up on posting links to Yama to Kogen maps.  They go out of date after a year or so and the links die.  If you want a link to their latest map, comment and I'll get you a link to their latest map of the area.

Online printable topo map of Jonendake


Starting and stopping point: 

Mimata Parking Lot

Peaks bagged: 前常念岳(Maejonendake) ~ 常念岳(Jonendake) ~ 蝶槍(Choyari) ~ 蝶ヶ岳(Chogatake) 

(First-time) peaks # 976~978

100 Famous Mountain # 46 Jonendake


Getting there/getting around:  

I drove.  The closest parking is at the 三股駐車場トイレ (Mimata Parking Lot Toilet), about 15 minutes walk from the trailhead.  There are two other parking lots further away down the road if that one is full.  

This is a real-time camera of the parking lot.

If you're coming by public transportation, the nearest train station is Toyoshina (豊科駅)Station on the Oito Line(大糸線).  A taxi will take 40-50 minutes from there.  You can also get there by taxi from Hotaka Station (穂高駅).  The rate schedule is here.  That taxi company does have an English page but the rate schedule is in Japanese.

The road from the Holiday Yu to the Mimata Parking Lot closes at the end of November.  It is possible to hike to these mountains from the Holiday Yu but it is an additional 8 km.  I don't think that would make a day trip feasible at tall.  Taxis are available to the Holiday Yu by the same taxi company linked above.  It's much cheaper to go only to the Holiday Yu.


Helpful Info

Weather Information: 

Time and distance

Total Time: 11:00  Break time: 1:04  Distance:  16.5 km
Elevation:  Lowest: 1,278 m Highest: 2,857 m Total Ascent: 2,086 m  Total Descent: 2,086 m

Technical considerations/difficulty:  

It's steep.  There aren't too many ropes, chains or ladders but there are a lot of boulders and there are many places where you need both hands and feet to climb.  Much of this hike is above the tree line so it's imperative to have protection from the wind.

It's not easy to make time so be prepared for a long day.  I generally move faster than most people but I still averaged only about one mile per hour on this hike.  It is tiring too, so I rested longer than usual.  

The majority of people come to this area for a two-day trip and stay at one of the local lodges such as Jonen Goya Lodge or the Chogatake Lodge (蝶ヶ岳ヒュッテ) .  If you want to do the whole Panorama Ginza (from Mt. Tsubakuro to Chogatake), it's a 3-4 day trip.

Facilities:  

Toilets at all the parking lots.  Bring water (not for the toilets, for drinking.  😉)

Thoughts/observations/recommendations: 

They say revenge is a dish best served cold.  It is true in this case.  I was thwarted in my first attempt at Jonendake but I was able to get my revenge in the snow.

I am so glad I was able to bang this out on the last weekend the road was open.  I was able to get some great views of the Alps and play a little in the snow before it gets too deep.

I had tried shooting for Jonendake a few months ago but turned back at Maejonen.  I had camped at the Susado Campground the night before and it just poured all night long.  I got a late start in the morning after cleaning up my wet camping gear.  On the hike, the weather went bad again so I turned back.  I realized from that experience that an early start was imperative for this hike.  The funny thing is that this time I started from home and was on the trail 2-3 hours earlier than I was in the summer.  Of course, that meant getting up at 3:30 am.  😔



This is about 6 minutes long.  That's a lifetime in our ADHD world.


Here are some pictures.

So, in the middle of the night, I bent over to look at my foot as I slipped it into my pants leg to see this situation. 


Don't tell Mrs. Caveman.  She'd be scandalized if she knew I still decided to wear these pants for the day.   In the dark, it didn't look this bad.  Also, I was not anticipating seeing more than 5~10 people at most all day, anyway.  And besides, I wear bullet-proof underwear.

Speaking of Mrs. Caveman, she really does have woman's intuition.  She's been asking me for the past few weeks if a new pair of hiking pants wouldn't be a bad Christmas present.  

I had been telling her that I was ok on the hiking pants front.  On this particular morning, I starting thinking I should change my mind.

On top of the draft in the rear, I managed to rip a hole in the knee on the trail that day, too.  

That settles it.  I know what I need to ask Mrs. Claus for Christmas.

Enough about me.  I'm sure you'd rather see some pictures of the mountains.


I was worried about the weather.  The weather forecasts I'd looked at all conflicted.  Even though it was a crisp, clear starry sky at home when I left, I encountered clouds and rain on the way.  Thankfully the mountains had only gotten snow.  




What a pleasant start to the day.












The first peak, Mt. Maejonen.





I think these are from Ptarmigan.  (Thunderbirds)





Looking down on the Jonen Lodge



The top of Jonen





From Jonen to Chogatake, I was almost alone.  There was another hiker close behind me (I hope he wasn't looking at my butt) but nobody had preceded me.  It was nice to walk on fresh snow.




The ridge to Chogatake




Mt. Choyari
Choyari means butterfly-spear



🎵The hills are alive 🎶





The top of Chogatake

Chogatake


Campsite by the Chogatake Lodge.

This was 2 pm.  It was 20 degrees f (about -5 degrees C).  I imagine these people had a long, cold day and night ahead of them since all their hard work was already done for the day.





I finished about 5:30--after sunset.  I got to use my headlamp.


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Caveman conquers Tanigawadake in Gunma.

 




. . . about Mt. Tanigawa

This is one of the 100 Famous Mountains of Japan.  It's not that high at 1,977 meters but it is rugged and great caution must be taken depending on the trail and the season you choose.  There is a requirement to request permission of the local authorities ten days in advance of using certain trails in winter.

There is a ski area not so far from the top so there is a ropeway that can bring you a significant portion of the way up.  There are trails that interweave with the various ski lifts and trails. 

There are breathtaking views when the weather is right.

Area:

Location:

Map:  Gunma.   This link is to a printable topo map.

***If you want a link to the latest Yama to Kogen map, comment and I'll get you a link. 

Starting and stopping point: 

(Start)  Tanigawa Ropeway Parking Lot

(Finish)  Tanigawadake Tenjin Daira

Peaks bagged: Tanigawadake (Tomanomimi and Okinomimi) 谷川岳(トマの耳とオキノ耳) ~ Kumaanazawanoto (熊穴沢ノ頭) ~ Tenjin (天神山) ~ Takakura (高倉山)

(First-time) peaks #971〜975 

100 Famous Mountain #45, Tanigawadake


Getting there/getting around:  

I drove.  There is a very large parking garage at the Doai Ropeway Station.   ¥500.  

Culmina has great information on getting there by public transportation.  I just discovered that blog.  I think it should go onto my list of links that I like. 


Fun facts: 
1.  There are long shinkansen and highway tunnels underneath these mountains.  The Joetsu Shinkansen Line runs under Tanigawa via the Daishimizu Tunnel.  Until the Seikan Tunnel connecting Honshu and Hokkaido was built, this was the longest train tunnel in the world.  Now it's #2.
2.  Nearby Doai Train Station is the deepest one in Japan.  Tell your train otaku friend that and they'll get all excited.  After you finish reading my blog, take a look at this article on Japan's #1 Mole Station.

Helpful Info

Weather Information: 


Do note that the weather on Tanigawadake is notorious for changing quickly.  Be prepared for rain.  Be prepared to be stuck overnight in a shelter.

Time and distance

Total Time:  5:40 Break time: :03  Distance:  10.5 km
Elevation:  Lowest: 733 m  Highest: 1,977 m Total Ascent:  1,697 m Total Descent: 1,120 m

Technical considerations/difficulty:  

This is a steep hike.  There are a lot of boulders where you need to climb hand over hand and a lot of chains on steep rock faces.  It's fun!  But treacherously slippery when wet.  As I said, the weather can (and did on my day) turn quickly and you are well advised to be prepared.  There are two emergency shelters up there.  You should note their locations before you go.

Most people take advantage of the ropeway (both ways).  That makes for about a 6 km trek.  That's not too hard, (but not too easy either.)  I had planned to eschew the ropeway and hike up from the ropeway station at the bottom and then back down to it.  That would be about a 13 km trip.  The turn the weather took prompted me to change my plan and ride the ropeway down.  I really wouldn't want to spend that much time climbing down wet boulders.  

Annoyingly, I found what should have been the least dangerous part of the hike to be the portion where I had troubles.   The first half to three quarters of my hike was in the areas with a lot of boulders.  Then I got to the Tenjin Ridge and a few ski trails.  One would think that hiking on the ski trails would be less prone to calamity than the rocky areas.  Not so.  By then the ground was so saturated with water that the surface I was stepping on would periodically just give way under me.  I slipped and fell on my butt six times in the course of about an hour.  Thankfully, I just fell in the mud and the only thing I hurt was my pride.

Facilities:  


Tanigawadake Katakoya Lodge  (You need reservations to stay there during the hiking season.  Even though it was closed for business the other day, the door was open.  According to the Montbell site, the "rest hut" can be used all year round.  No water.  Restrooms only open during the season.)


No public restrooms on the trail . . . and not a lot of privacy.  It's hard to find a grove of trees to disappear into!


Thoughts/observations/recommendations:  

Do it.  If you can get there, do it.

My only regret is how the weather turned out.  This is yet another in a long list of supposedly beautiful mountains I have climbed that I have not actually seen.  I have to take other people's word for it that the views are great.


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Here are some pictures.

The day started out beautifully.

This is the ropeway station.  It's also the parking garage.







About 5 minutes up the street from the ropeway station is the trailhead.


Still gorgeous!


There are a lot of chains.  It's fun.



Hmmmm...  A few clouds.


Where'd the mountain top go?


More chains


. . .  and still more


This will be the last picture of chains.  You can be assured this wasn't the last time I encountered chains on the trail, though.









I think the height of this sign tells you something about how much snow this area gets.


The first peak to be encountered is Tanigawa's Tomanomimi.


The peak on Tanigawa that "counts" as the 100 Famous Mountain is Okinomimi.


Emergency Hut







The next few pictures are around the chairlift by the peak called Tenjinsan.




Like a kid whose attention is drawn to a shiny object, I started down the trail next to the sign.


It was a wrong turn, though!  I got about 10 minutes down the trail before I realized my mistake.  Good thing it wasn't further.  That trail was not pleasant.  Very steep and very loose topsoil.  Slippery.




The trail proper is on the ski slope.  The only thing to worry about there is bears.


Bears, and mud.  

The muddy grass gave way under my feet and I ended up falling on my jabaffa six times.  (Has anyone else ever heard that word, jabaffa?  It was my dad's preferred euphemism for a particular body part.  My siblings and I were wondering what language it comes from, if indeed it is a real word.)






















Time for the ropeway.  (¥1,800 one way.  ¥3,500 roundtrip)

I can't wait for the spectacular view!

The spectacular view:




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